Episode 84

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20th Nov 2023

Rabble Rants: Witnessing Genocide; Ontario Paying for Private Surgery Profits; Exploiting Post-Secondary Students

Topic 1: Witnessing Genocide in Gaza

We check in with each other and the audience in terms of the emotional toll of watching ethnic cleansing happening in real time, and reaffirm the need to keeping talking about Palestine. Reports from a WHO visit to Al-Shifa Hospital, verification of certain reports and political responses globally are all part of the discussion.

Topic 2: Ontario Paying for Private Surgery Profits

Doug Ford's government has confirmed reports that they are paying private (for profit) clinics in the Province premium rates to perform public surgeries. Surgeries that Ontario hospitals have the ability to perform are being sourced out to units run by giant corporations who are getting paid more than twice the amount.

We talk about the implications to the healthcare system, the hypocrisy of a private outsourcing costing twice the amount and the many ways in which the Ford government will try to spin this in their favour.

CORRECTION: The Www.ontariohealthcoalition.ca has found that many clinics are charging patients above and beyond the OHIP fees.

Topic 3: Exploiting Post-Secondary Students

Reports of students at Humber College suffering from malnutrition, with some fainting, triggers a discussion on the vulnerable economic position students in Canada find themselves in. The pressures put on them and the many ways in which these educational institutions facilitate their exploitation.

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Transcript
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There is so much out there to get mad about. Social injustices, class warfare, continued

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colonization, the act of destruction of our planet by those focused on prophets and not

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people. We can find it overwhelming at times. The good news is there are equally as many,

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if not more, stories of people coming together and rising up against the forces at play. So

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the creators of Blueprints of Disruption have added a new weekly segment, Ravel Rants, where

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we will unpack the stories that have us most riled up, share calls to action, and most importantly,

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celebrate resistance. Welcome to another Ravel Rant. We have a few items that we need to talk

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about today. Of course, our minds are still with Palestine and there is a lot of updates

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to unpack there. We're also going to talk about the privatization of healthcare, mostly in

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Ontario, but trending right across Canada. And then we're going to talk about the vulnerability

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of students, the cost of living that affects them, the high tuition rates, unpaid internships.

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There's a lot there that really lends to the rates of poverty that students experience,

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and Santiago has a few stories to share with us there. Before we get into some important

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updates in terms of the siege on Gaza, we were trying to decide what we were going to talk

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about and it's hard. It's hard for me to keep pace with all of that's happening, all of the

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updates coming in from Gaza and surrounding that issue, and then to try to keep on top

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of the other politics in our life. and our lives. And I think like I've seen a lot of posts recently

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that let me know that I'm not the only one feeling exhausted. Right, and that's not to center

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myself because I can only imagine what it's like to also be Palestinian in these times

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and consistently waiting for updates from back home and seeing the erasure of your people.

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And organizing through that and continuing to resist through that is taking a toll I don't

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think many of us have experienced before. You texted me last night something along the lines

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of like, I don't know how we're staying sane. And my response was, I'm not. Yeah, when I

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said that I was more maybe trying to convince myself that I was still holding on to my sanity.

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But it's been difficult. You know, these things come in waves and I think like, reach definitely

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a point of just like sheer exhaustion from the toll of everything that's happening. Not just,

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I mean, everything that's happening in Palestine, everything that's happening in Canada too,

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the global issues in general. I made the mistake of, well. not a mistake because it's helpful,

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but I started like reading about genocide. And I started reading about genocides around the

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world in the third course of history. I was shocked at the sheer number of genocides that

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occurred in the 20th century, even the 21st century that we know nothing about. It was

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difficult. read about that and but at the same time I think that so I mean yeah not holding

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on to sanity in a way I think is also the same thing to do because I think the state of things

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are such as at such a level where if you're not feeling that I would almost like I would

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almost be concerned if I was doing perfectly fine right now. with how things are? I think

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like the people that are doing fine have in a way switched off their humanity to a degree.

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I think we started to see it with the pandemic and people's just detachment from. responsibility

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of keeping each other safe and only worrying about yourself and it became like a triage

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where that's all you could do right you're in the state of survival trauma and you kind of

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carp compartmentalize that and shut everything else out that you feel like you can't control

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And it's so hard, like I feel it, but when I hear you say like, I'm so exhausted, that makes

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me so frustrated too, because it's like the time right now that people need to be as fierce

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and resistant as possible. And I really, really worry about the organizers, you know, within

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the Palestinian youth movement especially and other folks that we see that are doing consistent

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actions daily. Like that's a lot. this has been a lot and then you pair that with the sheer

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horror of having to bear witness to what's happening in Gaza and balancing that, you know, do I

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not look because it, you know, you can't unsee those images. They create feelings in you that

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may or may not be useful. But then do you look away? you look away and not bear witness and

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then this genocide ends up like the other ones that you're talking about where we don't know

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anything because I feel like it's not, it's only because of the sheer tenacity of the Palestinian

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diaspora that we've been surrounded by that we first knew the predicament Gaza was in when

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this all started, but that feels such an affection for the people of Gaza, right? Somehow we've

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made that connection there where we haven't made it in other communities. And so Even though

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we might have had tidbits of information that come through that let us know that genocide

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is happening, we don't latch onto it and refuse the narrative to be changed in the way that

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we have pushed back on Palestine. So I'm thankful for that, but it does draw into question how

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important that pushback is and bearing witness is, even though it's so hard to do. Like I

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don't really want to keep up with these updates, but we absolutely need to know what's happening

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in places like the Al-Shifa hospital, where UN groups with the World Health Organization

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finally went to witness what they now call a death zone. And just like the statements from

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the Red Cross that we've seen, these are typically very uncharacteristic statements by the World

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Health Organization as to what they witnessed in that hospital in terms of mass graves, shrapnel,

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signs of bombardment and gunfire. And at this point, we have 300 patients that are absolutely

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immovable. And this used to be one of the prestige hospitals in Gaza. It had incredible infrastructure.

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in terms of healthcare capacity and it's essentially just an empty building, half destroyed, with

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25 staff left in it. So now you're down to one healthcare facility in the south of Gaza where

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they've told people to evacuate from there now. So the Hamas headquarters that they were expecting

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to find at Al-Shifa Hospital, did you see the photos Santiago? What photos? Well, I… I think

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the caption was countless arms and you could quite count them. There was about 14 automatic

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weapons, the clips that go with them. My terminology for weaponry is awful. So there's not even

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as many clips as there are weapons. So there was also WD-40 laid out on the table. They

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tried as hard as possible to make this look like some sort of control center. So now apparently

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that headquarters... didn't materialize. And so now they say it's actually underneath another

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hospital. I can't even, it's like the onion writes this stuff. So it's at, under a hospital

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in the south of Gaza now, but they're trying to tell us after 75 fucking years of occupation,

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the resources that their intelligence services have and that the IDF has, they don't know

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exactly. exactly where Hamas is within Palestine. I find this very hard to believe considering

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what the capacity and the aid that they get from the US special forces is, not to mention

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their own special forces. Did you see the BBCs? They did a segment talking about

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exactly this, right? And essentially they were saying, you know, like that The BBC sent in

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their own teams and they were starting to, like they were essentially saying, like all of these

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claims made by Israel were not able to verify. Like they were starting to have some pushback

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from the BBC about the validity of the claims being made. And you know, you mentioned, you

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know, Israeli intelligence. I mean, do people have any idea what the Mossad is? You know,

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like, we're talking about what is considered to be one of the most sophisticated intelligence

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agencies in the world. That they sell their technology to other parts of the world. They

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collaborate with other world intelligence agencies. Like, supposedly they're the best of the best,

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right? And you're telling me that they don't know? They're getting this wrong? I mean, what

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happened to that video they released of- all the tunnels and everything. Like, are people

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under the impression that if that wasn't it, like if that was there, it would be everywhere.

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We would be seeing it everywhere. It would be plastered all over social media. I have no

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doubt that Hamas has tunnels and that Palestinian resistance movements utilize tunnels. They

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have a finite amount of space in Gaza and it's the most densely populated area around. So...

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They're going to use any means necessary to create more space. And we know even the Israeli

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army helped build underground capacity underneath that hospital. So of course they know that

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there's something there. If Israel is flattening neighborhoods, the most logical thing would

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be to go underground. You know, it's not exactly... That's a great point. They fucking demonize

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these tunnels that they talk about, but yet every Israeli household has to have a bomb

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shelter. Now, do you think all of a sudden Gazans are going to be able to afford bomb shelters

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or do they just don't fucking deserve them? No, right. And so it's like tunnels, real nefarious

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kind of undertones, yet a safe room in every Israeli house is perfectly normal. It's it's

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the deep. There's some imagery here, you know, like there's some symbolism to the way that

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this portray, you know, like there's so many. It comes back to dehumanization, right? Like

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this, this caricature of like, you know, the rats. or the mole or like underground creatures,

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you know? Like you feel that in how they're depicting this, you know? Like those who seek

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shelter underground are not human. That's kind of in the subtext of this. I think like some

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people will wonder why though, like why then bomb hospitals, right? Why would a state do

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that? Like it's such an evil thing to do. And I think another scene that we witnessed this

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week helps tell that story, even though we've already talked about how this is essentially

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just a land grab, it's an annexation. We've seen them raise flags over top of these destroyed

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hospitals. They've been using bulldozers to carve the star of David in a park that used

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to be for children. This is colonialism happening in front of our eyes. But when you see them

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capture a government building. and then days later, demolish it. It becomes clear that they

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are trying to make Gaza unlivable. So even if they were forced to allow people to return,

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which we know they won't, they've never gone back to the borders after the wars. It's always

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been land grabs. But even if they did, there would be no ability to live there. The health

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infrastructure has been destroyed. The water infrastructure has been destroyed. the government

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infrastructure has been destroyed and they've delegitimized in the eyes of the world Hamas,

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who although the election has not been for a very long time, were the only political representation

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in town. And so by destroying all of this, they are essentially, that is what makes it genocide

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because people will not be able to go back and live here. They will be dispersed throughout

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other Arab communities. or taken within the refugee programs of European cities and made

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to live in poverty there. Let's talk about that word for a second, right? Genocide. Because

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people don't know what that is. And I found it interesting because I saw there was a debate,

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I've been watching entirely too much Piers Morgan. It's kind of almost like an anthropological

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experiment at this point, but the stuff you see, too much, I've been watching too much

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of it. just to kind of get a feel for like the narratives, right? And I saw there's this one

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American rabbi who kind of like was asking this guy, he was debating, I forget if he was Palestinian,

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I know he was Muslim, but like, oh, like you use the word genocide, do you even know what

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that means, right? Like, do you know what the term is? And he didn't go on, he did not go

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on to explain it, but I was curious, cause like, I mean, I know what genocide is, but I wanted

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to see like, you know, like the actual. definition of genocide, remind myself what it is, right?

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And, you know, the United Nations Geneva Convention defines genocide very clearly as any of five

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acts committed with the intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethical, racial

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or religious group. These five acts were killing the members of the group, causing them serious

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bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing birth,

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and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Yeah, all five of those are happening,

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to different extents, all five of those. And you can, like, these are documented things,

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you know? There are, how many children are detained without charge in the West Bank? We know that

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that's happening. Not to mention seven, up to 70% of the victims of Israel, sorry, up to

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70% of Palestinians killed. since October 7th have been women and children. So if you. Remove

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the fact that you have exiled people from where they live. That is a criteria, but you are

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wiping out their women and children and the means for them to have children safely. 50,000

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women at the beginning of this in Gaza were pregnant. So there's been, it's about 180 to

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100 women a day having to give birth in these conditions. And the... They are not surviving.

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The maternal health rate there was already abominable. And it's worse. It's you can only imagine what

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it is now. There's a really one thing people are not talking about enough. If there's a

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really gross culture, that's a part of, you know, Zionism that around, you know, I don't

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even know how to describe this at this point, but it's, it's around demographic makeup. and

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births and children that is really fucking icky. Like, not like they're really obsessed with

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this. And I'm sitting here going, are you going to talk about? Yes. Yes, I am going to talk

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about how, you know, birthright. And people need to look this up because there is a lot

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around this is kind of a sex cult. And a lot of people don't know that. But a lot of birthright

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is designed to create Jewish babies is essentially what it is. And that's not that's not hearsay.

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This is this is documented. That's not even what I thought you were going to talk about.

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Oh, what do you think I was going to talk about? Is it the sterilization of non white Jews?

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No, this just keeps getting worse. It's about the fact that Israel actually tweeted out a

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story Yeah About an Israeli woman who needed to retrieve the sperm of her husband who had

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been killed in the line of apartheid duty and That this was not just a one-off occurrence

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that There are reports, there is a unit within the Israeli army that does try to do this.

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And so I know I kind of interrupted your talk, but I feel like it fits along the same thing.

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Like the most important thing is, is populating that area with Jewish folks. And we've seen

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people that hadn't fully converted not being buried in the same cemeteries and stuff. And

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so it's like... People need to understand how ethnically based this state of government is.

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I don't think that's anything that we're used to that is so explicit. You know, like the

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Canadian government does this, but not just so explicitly. No, there's levels here happening.

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There are layers at work here. Like there are several, like the sterilization. And none of

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this was even in the notes. No. Like, it's not just Jewish babies, they want white Jewish

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babies, right? Like we've heard about how, I forget the different terms for different Jewish

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people. I know Ashkenazi, but I forget the other ones. But there was the Ethiopian Jews who

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were being sterilized. upon immigrating to Israel because they didn't want them reproducing.

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That that's one thing, you know. Yeah, the birthright thing is really fucking unhinged. And like,

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I don't want to also get into that like moral equivalency test where it's like, look how

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they live, it's immoral or anything like that, because that's not. It's more of a philosophical

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thing here. Like I'm like I'm all for a good time But what we're talking about here is racial

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supremacy, you know, like we're talking about like really I'm almost at a loss of words for

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how to describe this because I'm not used to having to talk about this But this is racism

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is like it and it's a certain type of racism. That's like wow You're really going for it,

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you know like This is part of, like, when we talk about genocide, this has, this is a part

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of it, because they're trying to make it so that this land is a particular ethnicity. And

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I think what's most ironic is the fact that Netanyahu has been reported to be essentially

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an atheist. And like many other struggles in history where they're framed in religious ways,

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that Zionism has just been co-opted. It's an ideology that has been utilized by imperialists

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to a certain end. And though there are populations within that are inherently racist and talk

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about racial superiority, Netanyahu likely doesn't even give a shit that it's all about imperialist

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gains. It's about taking land, having power. being a so-called war hero and that the malicious

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ends that he has in the end have nothing to do with all of that. That's how they've created

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that workforce around them and help prop up and legitimize the type of government that

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they have because the Zionist ideology is permeated through that. That's the only way that you

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could even... convince people, you know, hunger game style, the people in the capital surely

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know how the other, what do you call them, districts live. They just don't see them as, as human.

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They're less than. And this is important to maintain that or else surely they would not

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allow for in the same way, hopefully we would not allow something like Gaza to exist, even

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though we have First Nations reserves. But at some point you have to maintain that. facade,

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right? So your populace doesn't fight back or demand an end to that. And so he uses that

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ideology to his gain and the powerful use that to their gain, which is in the end US based

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interests, right? Oil, gas, and proximity to other nation states that they need to have

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military bases there. But I think You know, a couple of the other things that we heard

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this week tell us that the tide is turning a little bit. You talked about the BBC actually

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fact checking, which is that is new in terms of the October 7th length of time. I think

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we're at day 44. And at the beginning, they were just reiterating everything Israel said

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without check, without even critique. That's changing. Also the US is starting to shift

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their position a little bit. Now we still have Biden saying ceasefire. In fact, there's footage

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of him saying there's no way that's going to happen. However, his focus is on what's happening

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on the West Bank, in the West Bank, in terms of settlers. And he's gone as far as to call

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them extremists, which I would not argue with that label. But it makes it really hard for

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them to maintain this war on terror, war on Hamas facade. if they're going to continue

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to harass people in the West Bank and steal that land, as well as Israel destroyed a Fatah

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administrative building inside a refugee camp in the West Bank. And so I think it's becoming

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more clear and harder politically for US and Canada to maintain these positions. Surely

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Trudeau is feeling the heat. We've seen him harassed at dinner, fundraisers canceled. There's

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comrades out across our… country here that have done a phenomenal job of interrupting business

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as usual. I feel like I can't keep up with the boosts in terms of people sending me their

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actions in different cities and finding these politicians everywhere they go. So I think

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that public pressure teamed with the absolute abhorrent way the Israeli army has tried to

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manage. their propaganda. It's just been done so badly that nobody can defend them anymore.

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And I'm really feeling for the folks who a week ago simply reiterated what they were reading

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on electric Infantara, or electric Intifada, where they reported that the Israeli Apache

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helicopters that responded to the music festival likely fired on Israeli citizens, causing a

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lot of death and destruction. If you look at a lot of the kibbutz that have been... attacked

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by Hamas, they too have blown out walls and appear to be damaged by a lot more than simply

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just fire and small arms. So it's becoming more clear to the world that we're not getting the

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full story out of Israel, which is typical of any army at war, but there are a lot of people

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removed from their positions and really demonized in the media for saying this a week ago, simply

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because an Arab outlet reported it. media sources are now repeating these claims and verifying

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them. And so it just goes to show that this bias that exists in everything that we've talked

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about exists in who we listen to here in Canada even. Right? Hopefully those people are feeling

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a little bit more vindicated as well as other people are starting to open their eyes that

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it's quite astonishing that after 44 days, we don't know exactly what happened on October

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7th. And I feel like that would help in most situations and in terror attacks across the

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world. We are given the most, you've seen it, right? You've seen the diagrams. They'll show

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the diagrams of where people entered. horrible details that were provided with but this is

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like this fog of war and it just you know it's starting to become a little too thick and folks

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are starting to notice. So side note uh we interrupt uh the broadcast to announce that I might have

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COVID. I'm starting to feel a tickle in the back of my throat as I'm recording this so

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as we're doing this I'm gonna do a COVID test because I have them in front of me and I kind

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of want to know but um Uh, yeah, no, um, I'm not sure when we'll have a full picture of

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what happened on October the 7th. For me, my thing is when I look at this, and it's very

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similar to, you know, when we have conversations about 9-11 and other similarly polarizing events

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where it's like, you know, to a certain extent, That's not what's important is what happened.

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And I say that like, you know, either way, whether or not it was, you know, Hamas carried all

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of them and they, and they committed multiple war crimes and, you know, all of that, or Israel

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killed half the people with Apache helicopters. For me, what's important is what happens after.

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Right? Because...

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And before. Yeah. But what I see after it's to say that you can't bring them back. You

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know? You can't. And how we choose to respond speaks to our humanity. Right? And so, same

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thing with 9-11. You know, people wanted revenge. And then Afghanistan was invaded for... for

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20 years for nothing. There was nothing, barely anything came out of that, right? There was

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the war in Iraq, which had nothing to do with it, but the sentiments around 9-11 were used

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to justify the war in Iraq, and the region has not recovered. Was that like, does horrible,

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like do we live in an eye for an eye society? Or do we try and rise above and try and say,

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something horrible happened here. How do we stop this from happening again? And I think

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the most foolish thing is that there's so many people out there who believe that something

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like Hamas, oh, we have to get rid of Hamas. Oh, we have to do it with weapons. That's not

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how that works, idiot.

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Like Hamas, there's people in Hamas, yes. And you can go and kill all of them. But really

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what it is an idea, right? And you can get rid of Hamas and another organization will take

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its place because along the way, how many orphans are you creating? How many people are you radicalizing

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with the violence who are then going to grow up and take arms, right? Because I gotta be

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honest, if looking around at my life, if all of my, if my family was killed, if all of my

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friends were killed and I was still alive, can I say that for certain that I'm not gonna rise

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up in arms? No, I can't say that. And I don't think anybody can say that. Right? Cycles of

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violence, we've seen it everywhere in different examples, in different forms. But cycles of

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violence is what happens when you meet violence with more violence. The idea that Hamas is

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something that can be defeated with violence is foolish. Just like, you know, oh, we got

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to defeat Al-Qaeda with violence. Well, and then they created ISIS and then he would like

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to feed ISIS. And I mean, has anything changed? No. And I think like, I agree with you 100

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percent on how we react is important and the context in which everything happened is important.

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But also uncovering exactly what happened on October 7th does have value to me for a few

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reasons. One, part of what Hamas did and why they did it, if we're following the patterns

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of other resistance movements, was to expose Israel for what it is. And that may sound so

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heinous because in the end it's acknowledging that they knew what the repercussions would

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be. But also it's important to show that illegitimate state for its callousness to civilian life.

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I think the world needs to see this. And that's part of the work of the resistance is to show

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the world. what Israel is really about, what they have been doing for the last 75 years,

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so that it will stop. So it's not so much about lessening the crimes you could possibly charge

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Hamas operatives, leaders with, but to demonstrate just how this state responds and their callousness

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even towards their own civilians is demonstrated by like... the fact that they don't care that

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they might be bombing hostages as they do that, but also how they responded on October 7th.

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That indeed it was always about just instigating this, which feels like a final siege of Gaza.

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Before we go on to our other topics, though, I want to go back to the point of retaining

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one's humanity. And I read a piece this week and I've lost track of where it is. It was

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talking about a protester for the Vietnam War who held a nightly candlelight vigil outside

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the White House for an extended period of time, mostly by themselves, and when interviewed

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and asked about the effectiveness of a one-person protest, one candle. in the night. Their response

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wasn't that, yes, I think, you know, people will see me and be inspired and do the same,

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or a politician will feel so bad that they will change their mind. They were doing it to retain

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their own humanity. They were doing it so that the times around them wouldn't change them,

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that they would not become complacent in the violence that they were seeing. that they would

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resist in whatever form or capacity that they had in that moment. And that would, that was

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all that they could do to just keep their humanity. You know, I imagine they use that time to feel

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and reflect and not just. shut it away and forget about it because it hurts too much. Right,

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so that drew inspiration like even for small acts of resistance, how sometimes it might

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just be to preserve your own sanity, your own sense of fight and responsibility. And sometimes

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if that's all you can do, that's what you gotta do. I remember I heard about the same thing

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and it definitely spoke to me. And, you know, that feeling of standing alone, I can relate

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to that at times because it can feel like that sometimes, even when we're not alone, it can

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feel like that in our day to day as we, when we're not, you know, protesting, when we're

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not. online but you know just like existing school work whatever it is and I'm and I'm

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thinking about these things and it feels like how are we expected to just act like everything's

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normal when it's not and trying to remember you know our humanity through it all I've been

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thinking about that a lot. and I We're in a world that's designed to make us forget that,

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you know. It becomes very difficult though, too, right? It becomes a lot of burdens to

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carry at once and there is a huge emotional, even physical toll on bearing witness and carrying

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other people's stories and fighting back constantly. So to anyone out there that's just feeling

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extra irritable, super sad. unable to sleep very well. I'm sorry, but that is a sign that

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you are still human and you're definitely not alone feeling that way. You know what I envy

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sometimes? I look at my cat and I just think he doesn't have any concept of geopolitical

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conflict or nation-state or capitalism. It's just lounging, chilling. I envy it sometimes,

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but then it's like, but at the same time, like, at the same time, there's a fight to be had.

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And I I'd rather be here fighting it than not. It seems hard to do, but we're going to refocus

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back to Ontario politics, Canadian politics here. There are still things that are happening

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that will also make a huge impact on us. And surely there are things that politicians are

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doing right now that we can't let them get away with. So we're going to touch base. on a couple

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of things this week. First off, I'm hoping a lot of you have heard the CBC breaking and

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other folks have been talking about a certain clinic, Don Mills Surgical Unit here in Ontario,

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where they are being, they provide surgery. It's a privately run clinic, for-profit clinic

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that provides OHIP users. with surgeries. So this is not somewhere where you're expected

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to pull out your debit card. So Doug Ford can still get away with saying, you're not paying

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with your credit card. However, the Ontario government is paying them over twice the rates

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that they're paying hospitals to do the exact same service. Now, they're not hiding this.

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When you ask them about it, they acknowledge it. They'll even tell you they're doing everything

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they can to address waitlist times. They call them premiums. They're paying these folks premiums

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to incentivize the clinics to perform surgeries like cataract surgeries, hip and knee replacements,

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things that have a long waitlist here in Ontario because of underfunding. Now just so folks

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know, our hospitals don't lack the infrastructure or room. to perform these surgeries, they simply

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don't have the staff. We know about the nursing shortage and the doctor shortage, and we know

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that is directly tied to private clinics popping up as well, is the fact that we don't treat

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our nurses well, we don't pay them enough money, and we make their jobs as hard as possible

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because of underfunding in the system. And so they're walking away from the job at record

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rates or going to more... private enterprises, like staffing agencies, where they'll get paid

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even more to do the same job as a visiting nurse, as a traveling nurse. These incentives though,

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what they're doing is by paying for twice the rate for these surgeries, is they're paying

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for these clinics to one, make a enviable profit so that they can even want to be in this kind

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of business, right? Cause private companies want to make as much money as possible. If

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it's not profitable, they won't do it. There's no doubting that. But again, that's why we

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have our healthcare under the private structure. They're also paying for these folks to actually,

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they're upstart costs. So if you didn't perform cataract surgeries before, there's room, there's

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equipment. So they gave them a quarter of a million dollars just to this clinic alone for

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that kind of stuff that a hospital already has, that we've already paid for out of public funds.

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And this... This fee that we're talking about doesn't even include what the surgeon actually

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gets paid because that surgeon gets to bill OHIP as well at the same rate. But the clinic

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that they're working for is making twice the money. We have to remember our hospitals are

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already run by private companies. So when we've created now a more profitable model, we are

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going to start to see a real shift. not that we haven't seen that shift before, but it is

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going to be more pronounced now with the emergence of more and more private clinics in Ontario.

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This is something Doug Ford promised to do back in January where he had this three-step plan

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on how to basically open up. He says it's to reduce wait times again, but it's essentially

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to just make it more profitable and easier for these clinics to show up. I wish folks looked

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at Healthcare providers, private healthcare providers in the same way they looked at developers

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because then they'd really see the almost criminal, the almost criminal element, the real corrupt

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element in all of this. Because I don't know if anyone remembers a certain MPP, Christine

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Elliott, Newmarket Aurora, she's just south of me so we've tussled. I served her with a

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petition or two. But I... digress, she was the minister of health for quite some time, the

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worst times, you know, before most recent times, it just keeps getting worse. But Christine

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Elliott has just recently registered to lobby the Ford government on behalf of the parent

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company of this Don Mills surgical unit. So like this isn't their only surgical unit. This

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is one of the biggest. the biggest companies in terms of private clinics in Canada. And

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now, yes, the former health minister of Ontario is getting paid top dollar by them to lobby

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her old friends in forward nation to allow them to open more clinics. And it's fucking working.

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I know she just registered a week ago, but don't tell me you haven't been talking to them, Christine.

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Don't even try that. We know that obviously they've been working really hard because that

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clinic, they had steady payments at $1.32 million for a few years leading up to 2020. And after

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that, they are now talking like $5.27 million a year from our provincial government. And

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so another really maddening thing about this, I don't think our audience needs much help

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realizing how bad this is. I mean, it's just on face value. It's awful. down the road, these

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assholes are going to be able to say that they spend more on healthcare now. Right? They're

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going to be able to say, oh no, last year we spent 40 billion. Now we spent 60 billion.

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And the reality is all of that extra money didn't give you one extra service. It just gave extra

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profit to private clinics and set the pattern to normalize the absolute destruction of the

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public healthcare system. And so he's done similar things like this in the past with education

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funding, you know, where they wrapped up like child services with education in the budget.

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So they are able to say that they spent more on education, but it was just a fudging of

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numbers. This is even worse. This isn't even another service that's been brought in under

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it's you're actually going to get less service. Because if we look at the patterns that have

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been set by BC, yes, the BC NDP and Alberta to provinces that heavily depend on the use

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of private clinics to deliver public health care. Imaging is one of them. We've talked

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about that on the show. It actually increases the wait lists because doctors and nurses will

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continue to move over to these higher paying clinics where they're able to get not just

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the fee from OHIP, but they get a cut of the profits. Ford even says himself, this is just

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so class act because he has just been warring with the nurses since he took off this. I imagine...

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wait. So now he's trying to pretend like this is a good spot for nurses to earn money in

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their spare time. They can earn a few extra bucks at a private clinic for all that spare

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time that they have from being a nurse. So... Because they're not overworked enough, right?

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No, no, apparently not. So obviously time will tell how this will impact... Ontario's healthcare,

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but surely folks can see the writing on the wall. And then you get to Danielle Smith in

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Alberta and she's dismantling, that's not hyperbole, that's not just trying to describe what she's

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doing. This is how she has described what she's doing. She's dismantling what the service provider

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for public health and they're going to restructure. I can only imagine what that's going to look

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like. So we'll have to just stay tuned on that. And sorry, it wouldn't be a story if we weren't

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able to point out the hypocrisies of capitalism here because quite often the narrative that's

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used to bring in public sector to do private work, oh sorry, the narrative used to bring

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in private companies to do public services, to provide public services is that they do

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it more efficiently, more cost effectively. Now you surely can't make this argument if

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you're forced to pay them double. what you pay the public sector. So that just lays that argument

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bare that the private sector is not what it's cut out to be. No, no, it's not. And it's really

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exposing again. And I was kind of reminded of this when I was thinking about the state of

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our essential goods and services about how. how dominated it is by private industry right

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now and how completely unfunctional, I don't even know, I don't have an adjective for this.

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Just what a fucking mess all of our essential goods and services are right now. And it's

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like, you know, it's, a few years ago, you know, people would find ways to still kind of, you

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know. believe in some sort of Canadian dream or something, but everyone at this point is

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feeling it in every single way, right? Students especially. Yeah, because we can't catch a

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fucking break, you know? Like our healthcare system, something that we were so proud of

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is being eroded in front of our very eyes and their aim is to make it like the US where what's

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the number one cause of bankruptcy? You know? medical debt, right? Where people, I remember

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I saw this video the other day where like a bicyclist, a cyclist, it fell off their bicycle

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in the middle of the road and the ambulance was right there and it picked them up and all

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the comments were like, oh, well, that's one way to go broke. And all the Europeans in the

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comment were so confused. They're like, what are you talking about? Ambulances are free.

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and it was like a real cultural contrast. They're not even free in Ontario. You'll be billed

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for an ambulance ride here in Ontario. Yeah, and that's the thing, right? So, okay, healthcare,

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disaster. Our education system falling apart, and I'll get into that. We pay the highest

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prices for internet. We pay the highest prices for telephones. Our public transit systems

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are fucking embarrassment. What am I missing here? There's so many levels to this. Food!

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You know, food. Jesus. Even water. My water bill here where I live, the tax rate for the

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water rates are going to go up 9% this year for water. There you go. And how many... And

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like, I mean, we have water in Southern Ontario. But you know who doesn't have water? A lot

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of people in Northern Ontario. A lot of people across the country, especially a lot of indigenous

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communities who have been waiting decades to have safe drinking water. So they are water

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a mess, food. I still remember those episodes we did a couple months ago on agriculture and

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I have not emotionally recovered from those episodes in the slightest because it's like

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every single thing to do The production and consumption of our food is a complete disaster.

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And the new reports coming out about food bank usage are deeply depressing. So it's like,

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OK, everything is a mess. And everyone wants to point fingers. Oh, it's Chideau's fault.

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Oh, it's Ford's fault. It's like, it's this is the system. This is all of their fault.

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It's everyone's fault. Everyone who had a part in this. And they keep doing this. And it comes

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back to, you know, like, just a reminder. Supply and demand is the biggest fucking scam in the

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history of economics because it doesn't fucking apply to essential goods and services It doesn't

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so you want to think the markets gonna fix this like if anyone ever tells you Oh, it's just

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supply and demand. Tell it like please expose the fuck out of that argument Because it does

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not work when someone needs something because if you need it if it's essential Then whatever

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is charged you have to find a way to pay it, right? Yeah, the theory is that if someone

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prices something too high, the market will not buy it, it will be too expensive, or they won't

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sell enough of it and force the price down. So Santiago's point is, yeah, we're not going

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to stop buying water, we can't stop buying food. I forgot housing! Housing, and all of these,

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like when we're making the notes for our next topic, talking about how vulnerable students

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are, especially international students who can't work more than 20 hours. how they are expected

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to keep up with all of these essential goods rising in costs, including the cell phone bill

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that they definitely have to have as a student. And then on top of that, having to do unpaid

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internships. Yeah. So I was reminded as a student right now about unpaid internships this week

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when... a friend of mine was, they got an unpaid internship, which was then, they were informed

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by the college that it would not count towards their internship hours for some reason. And

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I was reminded like, oh my goodness, unpaid internships, we just accept that as a part

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of society. But. It is so deeply exploitative and students right now, with all of the overwhelming

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issues facing them, how are they expected to labor for free, get nothing out of it because

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you're not even gonna, and a lot of times you don't even get a job out of it at the end of

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it, as a way to graduate, which is the thing that we're told that we need to do to survive,

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you know? We need to get that piece of paper. Yeah, yeah, like we need to get that piece

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of paper. Oh, sorry, my 15 minute timer just yelled in my ear. Let's check if I have COVID

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real quick. Looking good, looking good. Okay, I don't definitively not have it, but at least

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it's not positive, so that's good. Anyways, what was I saying? Yeah, that piece of paper

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that we're told, we need to survive in society, and it's been increasingly difficult to get

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it. See, I didn't have to do an internship for my diploma, but you were giving me quite a

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few examples, and it's 400 hours. That's 10 weeks of unpaid work. Who has the time, let

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alone the financial capacity? And that's not to say that all internships are unpaid. You

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can get a paid internship. But I'm going to use journalism as a fun little example, where

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students are competing with journalists who have been laid off due to

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layoffs. structural changes right of Canadian media? Yeah, so they're competing with people

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with industry experience for these internships, so those paid internships, no way they're getting

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them. No one's getting those paid internships. Those unpaid internships, what happens when

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you only have ten dollars in your bank account? You know and that's not like I know so many

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people who are like look at my bank account and it's literally like ten dollars, you know,

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and I was hearing about students at Humber who were fainting from malnutrition because they

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can't afford to eat. Right? So we have to... Like being a student right now, I can't...

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I have to paint this picture because it's so deeply depressing to be a student right now.

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And I kind of had like a reality check on this because I operate on the assumption that, you

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know, we're all fucked and that I'm be pretty poor and you know, made my peace with that

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to a certain extent. But you know, a lot of young people here, you know, they're being

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told go, go get your degree, get your piece of paper, you'll get a job out of it, and you'll

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be able to live your life, you know. And what they're facing right now, rent is higher than

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ever before, right? These food prices are squeezing students.

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I think it's on pause right now, but who usually have a limitation on the amount of hours that

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they're allowed to work for a week are barely able to make enough money to keep up with these

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things, right? I mean, for as long, like it's been decades since, you know, there's been

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like the image of the ramen eating college student, right? Because students have always been broke.

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Now ramen packs cost like three, four dollars now. You know? Gotta get the five thousand

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Walmart. Yeah, but like...

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That's a major financial decision for me at this point in time. Like I said, Santiago,

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it's an investment. I have to check if I can afford instant ramen nowadays. You know, so

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it's a story. And I'm seeing effect students, especially when they get to their last year

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and they're looking around and they're like, oh, I'm fucked because they're not getting

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those internships they need. And, you know, I've been in two, I've been in three programs

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at college now, and I talk to people in a lot of other programs. How many of them, how many

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people aren't even there by the time you're in your final year? How many people have dropped

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out? Because it's, it's like 70% in my program. You know, I remember when I was in Humber Music,

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I was one of eight trumpet players, and when I dropped out, I was the last one left. You

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know, so, so many people are paying these massive prices, dropping out. So a lot of people don't

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even get the piece of paper. And then those who make it to the finish line have all of

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this debt and nothing to show for it, because then they're going into this fucked up world

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that we're in. We're trying to be entry level right now, trying to like start your career

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right now. There is no opportunity for anybody. Even if there is, it's like $18 an hour and

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they want a master's degree. Yeah. And so, and, and that's another scam because I know so many

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students who like, they go, they're like, oh, no, there's no jobs for me. I gotta go continue

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my education. One more piece of paper. We'll do it. One more. We'll do it. Graduate certificates.

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I mean, that, like those one year pro, those are going up. A lot of people are, you know,

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and, and so it hit me because. When my friend heard that they denied his internship, he broke

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down. And just the despair in his voice really impacted me. Because it's, it was true, like,

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it's not fair what he's going through, what so many people are going through. It's not

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fucking fair. And the school doesn't care. Because we were lied to. Right? Like, our education

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institutions, although they're, you know, they receive public funds, they are consumer-based

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models. Right? They don't, they're not education-based models. in that they're not there for your

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needs and to best prepare you for the world. It's just to make money. It's just to, yeah,

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students are cash cows, especially these international students. And then we don't even have representation.

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You don't have a student union. Because at Humber, we, not really, we have something, a night,

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which it's supposed to be our student union. It's an event. planning committee is how I

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would describe it. And this is not my words. This is like, every- Sorry, have you seen the

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movie Trotsky? No. God damn it. Are you serious? That's my answer to 90% of times when someone

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asks me, have you seen, have you heard? No. I'm serious about this. This is mandatory,

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rabble rousers watching. You need to watch it because I will make references to this, but

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basically he finds his student union, right? He thinks he's the reincarnation of Trotsky

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himself. So he is full blast and he's going into the public school system for the first

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time and he finds out they have a student union and he is stoked and he goes and he gets there

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and they're just smoking cigarettes in a broom closet, planning the school dance. And you

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know, I will give it away. He makes it what it needs to be, but either way, he walks into

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a student union like you just described. Well, and that's the situation, right? And Humber

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has like all of these international students who are coming here without a voice, you know,

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in a very vulnerable position, not knowing people, you know? And so this isn't my opinion that

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Ignite is a fucking event plan. This is like an open secret. Everyone knows this, you know?

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Everyone knows that Ignite is- Not all student unions are created equal, but yours sounds

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particularly bad. Yeah, no, no. Like, I know that, like, other schools actually have student

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unions. Great for them. We don't, you know? So, there's nowhere to turn to at Humber. There's

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nowhere to turn to. And this story is so common. It's so fucking common. And I don't know how

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we're expected to do it, you know? Well, you're not. I've considered, you know. Leaving before

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I'm almost at the finish line. So at this point, it's like fuck. Okay, I'll finish it whatever

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but like I Don't know how people are expected to do this and then like the ones who succeed

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because there'll be like a few You know it's like The the colleges almost are like look

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at our successful alumni These are our successful alumni. Anybody can be like our successful

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alumni. You too can be like that. And it's like, okay, no we can't. A recent graduate of the

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journalism program who I was talking to, he was talking about how, he did two internships,

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right? To get all the hours that he needed, those 400 hours. He worked his ass off. He

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built his portfolio. He, he, he was doing everything he needed, you know, and he can't find a full-time

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job. He's got a part-time job at Humber, but yeah, but he can't, he said there's just no

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full-time jobs and what's he saying is like, oh, you know, in comms, they start at salary

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start at 80,000 versus 35,000 for journalism. If you can get the job. Right. And can stomach

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doing public communications. So a lot of people who study journalism are now going and doing

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comms. And I mean, when we talk about the state of Canadian media, that might be a fucking

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part of it. You know, all of this work. And what's your salary? Thirty five thousand. I

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know people like who have worked like. That's jobs where you do almost nothing all day. with

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salaries of upwards of 50,000. Journalists nowadays are expected because they cut all the jobs.

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So journalists nowadays are expected, you gotta write the stories, but you also gotta be able

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to film, you gotta be able to edit, you gotta be able to do TV, radio, you gotta be able

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to lay things out, you gotta be able to do graphic design, you gotta be able to, you gotta do

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it all. You gotta be able to do it all. And you gotta hustle like crazy. And what do you

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get? $35,000 at the end of it. And people still shit on the trades, which is like, I don't

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understand whatsoever. It's that in ideal world, yes, we can go to university, learn critical

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thought, gain extra skills because we need them in life. But the reality is we also have to

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be equipped to survive, which means selling our labor. The trades are an incredible place

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to do that because most of them are unionized as well. So it's funny that we still gear people

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towards, you know, I'm one to talk, I have a degree in the liberal arts. I felt like I learned

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a lot from going to university, but I don't think it does anything for my resume to be

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perfectly honest. So I almost wish I had gone into the trades. I still would have been politically

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minded and could have done that kind of work, but It's people still shit on folks that use

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their hands to do work or choose not to go to post secondary school and get into the trades

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as well. So when we talk about, you know, free education.

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There's so many more reasons behind that than just simply students not ending up in debt.

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I don't... the mental load that one has to carry in order to maintain this juggling and then

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to be treated that way, that was probably the worst four years of my life. Even though I

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did enjoy being in university, it was so stressful. I ended up in the hospital with anxiety and...

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just the high pressure stakes that are also involved with like being the top of your class

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so that you do get the jobs that are available. And it's absolutely incredible. And under this

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today's, you know, political climate and cost of living, it's gotta be too much for folks.

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And yeah. Yeah, I feel that for sure. You know, I've been here for going on eight years, you

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know, cause I switched programs. Um, and it's just, I've seen how many people have fallen

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through the cracks and not because they didn't know how to work, not because they didn't want

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it or weren't trying. You know, I've seen so many times where students are raising issues

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that fall on deaf ears. I made it my... mission to advocate for the students. So last year

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I spent a lot of time bringing up concerns to our program coordinator that those concerns

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fell on deaf ears as well. Nothing changed. And what happened? Those students who were

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raising those concerns that never got met, they left. And they don't feel the need to change

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anything because those students are now gone. So the students who this does work for, who

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are still around because it works for them. Oh, they use that as a way to validate the

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way that they're doing things, you know? It's a really, really hard time to be a student.

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And You know, it's, I don't know, it's just, it's tough. It's tough and I really feel for

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all my fellow students out there because it's fucking tough. I just wanna add a little side

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note because you said it a few times and I know you don't mean it like you say it but we can't

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edit it out or else your statements won't make sense. But when we say fall on deaf ears, I

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just wanna acknowledge the little bit of. ableism that exists in a lot of our language, because

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in fact, it's not that they don't hear it. It's that they don't value the voices in it. Right?

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So these are things that I'm learning from helpful disabled advocates that helped me unlearn some

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of the language that they use. But I just thought it could be a learning point for our audience.

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And I'm not coming down, you know, you know, coming down on you. I just want to like. It

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makes it worse, right? It's not just they didn't hear. And that's what deaf means, right? Like

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the inability to just like have sound input. They take that input in and they callously

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reject it. That's what that term actually means. So I wish we had a better way of saying, you

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know, they heartlessly ignored it. Anyway, I do need a better term for that. There's so

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many of those, you know, and you did just like a As I'm speaking, there's like a little part

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in the back of my mind that feels like the little cognitive dissonance of like, oh, you know,

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like I get like the, I was like, oh, yeah, no, that's uncomfortable. And I said it like twice

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too. And it's, yeah, you'll see I'm like making a face trying to wave me up. But I know there's

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a few, you know, if we say people are blind to something, we actually mean they're ignorant

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to it. Not that they don't actually see it. Right. it doesn't imply an inability, almost

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a refusal. And so when there is someone helping you, it's unreal how ableist our language is

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and racist. So like there's a lot of terms that we use, we don't understand their root origins

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and then we learn better. But it really is incredible how extensive it is. And then it does reinforce

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things that we don't think that we're reinforcing, right? But anyway. This was quite the eclectic

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episode in the end, for those who stuck through it. Yeah. This is like, to justify my scattered

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brain, I'm really burnt out right now. My brain, I'm operating at like maybe 40% of my ability

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to think with clarity. Also, I had to, I'm sorry, I do not feel so great, so I did a COVID test

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halfway through, so yeah. It's been a fun episode in that sense. Um, and yeah, everything is

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deeply depressing right now. You can't make that the last thing we have on there. Go just

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whatever it is, just we'll end it now, but you can't make that the last line promise. Oh,

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okay. Well, what do I got? What do I got this part of that? Um, nah, I got, I got, I got

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nothing. I'm making my own ramen.

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That sounds bougie. Nah, I'm making it cheap. I'm not cheap, so I can make bigger batches.

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It's funny, it does get cheaper. You can link the recipe in the show notes. I'm still waiting

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for my bolognese, bastard. If people want a cooking talk show where we cook while talking

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through things,

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can make that happen. I'm here for that and I'm hungry. Alright. I'm ending it. That's

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all folks. Just to stop this madness. That is a wrap on another episode of Blueprints of

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Disruption. Thank you for joining us. Also, a very big thank you to the producer of our

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show, Santiago Jaluc Quintero. Blueprints of Disruption is an independent production operated

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cooperatively. You can follow us on Twitter at BPofDisruption. If you'd like to help us

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continue disrupting the status quo, please share our content. And if you have the means, consider

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next time, keep disrupting.

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Blueprints of Disruption
A Podcast for Rabble Rousers
Blueprints of Disruption is dedicated to amplifying the work of activists, organizers and rabble rousers. This weekly podcast, hosted by Jessa McLean and Santiago Helou Quintero, features in-depth discussions that explore different ways to challenge capitalism, decolonize spaces and create movements on the ground. Together we will disrupt the status quo one episode at a time.

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Jessa McLean

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Host, Jessa McLean is a socialist political and community organizer from Ontario.

Santiago Helou Quintero

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