Democrats Lose. Our Plans Stay the Same.
We will remember this 5th of November. A bonus Rabble Rants for the Blueprints of Disruption audience in response to the 2024 U.S. Presidential election.
While some blame voters and activists, our hosts examine how the DNC is to blame and what the results mean for the movements we feature on the show.
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Welcome to Rabble Rants. I'm Santiago Gelo Quintero and alongside Jesse McLean, we're going to
Speaker:unpack the stories that have us most riled up and challenge the narratives around them.
Speaker:Remember, remember the 5th of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason
Speaker:why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. I remember the 5th of November. For different
Speaker:reasons though than the 2024 one I guess. Well there was like 150 odd Americans that didn't.
Speaker:Because I don't give a shit about anybody who voted for Kamala either. Right? So, yeah, it
Speaker:happened. Trump is president again in case, I don't know, you fucking missed it. But I
Speaker:didn't know how I would feel when it happened because I think we knew it would happen. We
Speaker:can talk about why I think that's what we are going to talk about. But I felt really fucking
Speaker:smug this morning going, it was kind of like, I don't want to go on there and say, I told
Speaker:you so. But, you know, everyone told the Democrats. So Their base sure as fuck told them people
Speaker:in Dearborn sure as fuck told them that this wasn't a winning policy, you know, genocide.
Speaker:I mean, there's other reasons too, but the fact that you, you know, I don't want Trump, I don't
Speaker:want Trump, I don't want Trump. Okay. But I'm happy as fuck that the DNC were punished. No
Speaker:politician can stand behind a genocide shout down their base who are trying to stop it and
Speaker:think. that they are going to win them over, either their vote or their labor. Like, that's
Speaker:ridiculous. Yeah, like, sorry that the kids that you tear gassed aren't voting for you.
Speaker:Yeah, or the people whose families you're bombing. I even saw Republicans, you know, in the face
Speaker:of some Democrats, shouting them down, going, How can you justify sending all that money
Speaker:over to Israel? You know, how can you justify that like they are so fucked up voting Republican?
Speaker:I get it. But it was even you they couldn't even defend themselves to Republicans on some
Speaker:of these points. And I know a big fuck you honestly to the people out there that are like, Oh,
Speaker:I can't wait for them to see what happens under Trump to Gaza. What the fuck you mean? You
Speaker:mean you hope you see further destruction just so you can prove your point? just so you can
Speaker:like what get back at people who didn't get your girl into office? Like you've got to be
Speaker:kidding me, way to show your true colors. One thing about like the cult of the Democratic
Speaker:Party that is always kind of funny to witness when they lose is that the blame game. Right?
Speaker:Like we've been seeing the blame game for years. New Democrats do it well too. Yeah, oh yeah
Speaker:absolutely. It's not unique at all. Shout out to the NDP. It's not unique at all to the Democratic
Speaker:party. But it's really funny, like I keep seeing tweets of people who are like, I hope you third
Speaker:party voters got what you fucking asked for, you fucking ruined my life, yadda yadda. Meanwhile
Speaker:there wasn't a single state that would have been flipped by the third party voters. Trump's
Speaker:victory was so absolute. No one got what they wanted. Those third party voters wanted an
Speaker:end to genocide and climate justice. What the fuck you mean they got what they wanted? Yeah,
Speaker:but it's like, yeah, the third party voters had nothing to do with it. Okay, and we can't
Speaker:blame Bernie this time, right? Bernie didn't even run. But he would have won if he did.
Speaker:Even though, you know, he's not... I mean, he would have had to change his position too.
Speaker:He's still standing there going, Israel has a right to defend itself, but, but... Yeah,
Speaker:look, like, I'm... more than mature enough at this point to not deify Bernie or anyone else
Speaker:anymore. Not that like I'm not grateful for the political awakening that his original campaign
Speaker:gave. But anyways, Bernie things aside, I'm not even going to go there. And now they're
Speaker:like, OK, well, we'll blame the Latinos, even though Latinos voted more for Kamala than Trump.
Speaker:OK, well, I know you told me they blaming Latinos for what? There's like. Because you know, oh,
Speaker:40% of them voted for Trump. Like, what numbers do you want? What is the threshold? Like, every
Speaker:fucking Latino. Maybe if we allowed Latinos who weren't just rich Latinos to immigrate.
Speaker:And vote. Things would be different, right? Because like, hey, we got some real right-wing
Speaker:Latinos, and those are the ones that have an easier time getting to these countries, just
Speaker:so you know. Look everyone, we are smug. There is nothing to be happy about though, like.
Speaker:It's an absolute victory on every level, right? Senate, House, everything. I mean, it's gonna
Speaker:be awful. I'm not, and I have no false hope that like, well, it wasn't quite as bad as
Speaker:we thought last time around. So no, there's no false hope. It's gonna be way worse. Everyone
Speaker:knows it's gonna be way worse. But how much way worse? What in four years did Biden do
Speaker:that could have mitigated? So what could another Kamala for? to mitigate like the anti-trans
Speaker:legislation and the anti-abortion legislation that just continues to roll through the states.
Speaker:You know, Biden had his chance and it's so insulting for all these celebrities posting up selfies
Speaker:or anybody making these comments, these fucking feminists, usually white feminists. Oh, well,
Speaker:here I voted today as though half the population's lives depended on it. I voted today for me
Speaker:and my two daughters. There's women dying now because of these laws being refused treatment
Speaker:by hospitals until they're in a situation so fucking dire that they die rather than get
Speaker:the health care that they need because of legislation that's been passed that Biden has not been
Speaker:able to thwart. Four years ago, you know, this is the most important election of your time
Speaker:women and they gave you Biden. You fooled them. And so again, this mask slips. It slips. I
Speaker:would say it started with Obama, right? He had such promise and change and then he ended up
Speaker:dropping the most drone strikes as any president and built these migrant camps that everyone
Speaker:loved to dump on Trump for. And if you look materially, Trump didn't do anything all of
Speaker:that more horrible than the Democrats will do if given the opportunity to. No, and like that's
Speaker:the thing, right? Like we have no false illusions that either side was gonna act in the best
Speaker:interest of the people at any moment in time. I mean, at the end of the day, they're beholden
Speaker:to the rich. Yeah. Right? Like I'm not blaming you, but let's speak. No, young men, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, what the f- You know, I don't know if you can help make sense of it, but that's really
Speaker:troubling. And it does speak to what you were talking about in one of our other Ravel rants
Speaker:of- not being able to harness the radicalization of especially now we see young people young
Speaker:men in specifically voting for Trump and the dangers of not being able to thwart that what
Speaker:does that mean yeah I mean that is something that we have been raising the alarms about
Speaker:for a very long time you know like it's partly why I shit on the NDP so much I'll tell you
Speaker:why because Other parties, they encourage the radicalization of the youth and other groups,
Speaker:right, in a most horrible way. But our parties, like you saw the way Kamala was trying to suppress
Speaker:any Palestinian solidarity, anybody trying to get her to answer on the Israel question. And
Speaker:in general, you know, you saw also the Democratic Party fight tooth and nail to remove socialists
Speaker:from the ballot. And our new Democrats are the same, right? They do everything in their power
Speaker:to push down the radical elements of the left. They keep us down. They try to moderate us.
Speaker:And other parties, we actually shit on them for doing that because we know it's not in
Speaker:our best interest. We know it's not in the people's best interest. But you have to admire that
Speaker:tactic. That is how you point people's anger in the right direction and not just put it
Speaker:into bureaucracy. and the correct avenues and respectability politics. That's not what people
Speaker:are asking for. And because we have not given it to them, we have lost the youth to the right.
Speaker:And the fight that we have in front of us is becoming even more daunting day by day. A youth
Speaker:that back in 2016, for example, had all the promise of being one of the most progressive
Speaker:youths. But back in that day, there was like... It was extremely anti-right wing. Extremely
Speaker:progressive. We have like the speed at which we have lost the youth. It's horrifying. And
Speaker:there's, there's no like, I mean, people are already living through extremely tough times.
Speaker:There's no waiting for something to like change their mind. It's already, it's, it's already
Speaker:been lost yet. I mean, we know that the Democrats aren't going to learn any lessons from this.
Speaker:You know, they're not going to be like, Oh, well, maybe we should have had an actual primary.
Speaker:Maybe we should have, you know, allowed people to see like, if anything, their reaction is
Speaker:going to be, well, we can't run any women anymore. That might be the one lesson they learnt from
Speaker:it. You know, you're going to see them blaming the demographics like you talk about, but yeah,
Speaker:no, no inner reflection, not on policy. I mean, the fact that they were walking around with
Speaker:the Cheneys. I mean, they didn't even have policy. No, it lacked policy. Nothing about health
Speaker:care, which everyone is struggling. I mean, Kamala didn't even have a platform for how
Speaker:long? Like literally no platform, right? Which is strange coming from someone who's been so
Speaker:intertwined in policy and how that role would be for so long to not have concrete ideas.
Speaker:That's such a red flag when they don't provide that. Olivia Chow didn't provide one either.
Speaker:And so it was another leftist, not even a faux progressive, that's trying to win the free
Speaker:labor and votes of the very people they plan to oppress anyway. And they- It's almost like
Speaker:we're in another one of those situations, you know, where they ran Hillary when we knew Bernie
Speaker:would win and they put up another unpopular candidate like Kamala. Who got destroyed when
Speaker:they were actually in a primary. Like, it was brutal how bad their primary was back in 2020.
Speaker:Right? Like that was embarrassing. Yeah, they seem like the person to run. They're not gonna
Speaker:learn anything from this. And I'm not waiting for them to learn that. And they don't have
Speaker:their usual arguments. Like I said, they can't go and blame third party voters because the
Speaker:marginal is so big. They can't be like, oh, well, we won the popular vote. No, you lost
Speaker:the popular vote this time around. There's so many reasons to disappoint their base, but
Speaker:how are you activating people? How are you getting people convinced that putting... another Democrat
Speaker:in there for four years was going to give them anything but what they'd experienced for the
Speaker:last four years. And they couldn't. And that was a tough place to be. You'd have to be criticizing
Speaker:your own work for the last four years. So it was just like the safe coasting of an election.
Speaker:But it's like, in the end, you realize the people behind these parties, they don't give a shit
Speaker:who wins in the end. It doesn't fucking matter to them. No. And let's talk Canada for a second.
Speaker:We're not learning any lessons here, right? I mean, we know the Democrats aren't. But hey,
Speaker:Polyev's waiting. He's coming. You know? It's going to happen here too. Oh, he's watching
Speaker:this, and he's probably so excited. And this is for all the people there that are, oh, you
Speaker:know, Americans. How can they do this? You know, and the memes were endless. You know, here's
Speaker:the Americans about to make another stupid mistake. And it's like, buckle up, people. You know,
Speaker:not that I'd. It's the same thing.
Speaker:No, but I would feel the same way about someone voting for Justin Trudeau under what has happened
Speaker:that I would for Poliev. I don't know how you could go and take that time to walk to the
Speaker:school and line up and present your ID and tell that person that they deserve to keep doing
Speaker:that job. Nor do I understand how you would hand it over to some right-wing fuckface that
Speaker:wants to scape go the most marginalized people in our community so brazenly, because the liberals
Speaker:are doing it anyway. You know, they have all of the detriments that the conservatives have,
Speaker:except they couch it in this bleeding heart liberal rhetoric. But that's being that's harder
Speaker:and harder to buy. There's no liberal that doesn't know what the fuck they've done for the last
Speaker:400 days. And so you're if you're still getting that your stamp of approval, I put you in the
Speaker:same category. I mean, I don't even want to talk about the NDP because they just go on
Speaker:so long about But in terms of those two parties, that's how I feel. And it's the same with the
Speaker:Democrats. If you went out and voted for Kamala and tried to pretend to people that would somehow
Speaker:make a huge difference in their lives, even in women's lives, fuck right off. Which women?
Speaker:Rich white women? Maybe? Materially, she hates workers just as fucking much. So like, no.
Speaker:Winning the presidency isn't going to overturn those abortion laws. It meant nothing for women's
Speaker:rights. No. Nothing. No. So the good news is though, let's end up, I do have good news.
Speaker:I have very good news. Because you all can be as smug as me today. Because you know why?
Speaker:Because the plan has not changed. Not in any way. Nothing we have talked about ever on our
Speaker:show, either Blueprints of Disruption or here on Rabble Rants. There is no call to action.
Speaker:There is no tactic that we have discussed that still isn't in play at this time. Right. Believers
Speaker:of power still remain the same. The systems that oppress us are still there. They just
Speaker:have, they just have a different character running the show. And behind the scenes, we have the
Speaker:same enemies still. So yeah, there's probably people just despondent today. They don't understand
Speaker:what is happening. Very disappointed, troubled maybe with some of the demographics voting,
Speaker:you know, and what that means for our future. But we all knew that was already a hurdle for
Speaker:us. We saw those numbers here for conservative support in Canada. The work is still to be
Speaker:done today to not, I think, mark any of that, except perhaps that we know voters will hold.
Speaker:Genocidal politicians, unapologetically genocidal politicians, accountable for their actions.
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